Hide in Shadows

[dulsi]

Has anyone played around with hide in shadows and can tell me how it works? If not I'll try it out myself when I get a chance. Specifically:

1) Can you be attacked while hidden? Area attacks I believe still affect you but can you be targeted by melee attacks.
2) Can you hide in shadows when you are the only living person?
3) Can an entire party hide in shadows if everyone are thieves?

I'm planning on implementing BT3's hide in shadows in Bt Builder.

[tpth]

Not sure about the last two, but the answer to 1) is no, you can't be attacked. (And I'm sure you know this, but it's only BT3 you can attack from the shadows and critical hit - the first two games you just skip out of combat, which makes rogues pretty much useless.)

[dulsi]

That's from the AppleII version. Hope it helps. That attack is with a mthr dagger, so the attack increases by level. I'm not sure by how much, however.

Either the dos version is different or it isn't just by level. I have 120 level thief with a short sword who did 3 damage. Granted 3 damage strikes me as odd as well. One would think the 30 strength would add more to the damage than that.

[drifting]

That's from the AppleII version. Hope it helps. That attack is with a mthr dagger, so the attack increases by level. I'm not sure by how much, however.

Either the dos version is different or it isn't just by level. I have 120 level thief with a short sword who did 3 damage. Granted 3 damage strikes me as odd as well. One would think the 30 strength would add more to the damage than that.

The DOS version is riddled with major bugs. I would take the Apple/C64 versions as the reference version.

[Darendor]

Has anyone played around with hide in shadows and can tell me how it works? If not I'll try it out myself when I get a chance. Specifically:

1) Can you be attacked while hidden? Area attacks I believe still affect you but can you be targeted by melee attacks.
2) Can you hide in shadows when you are the only living person?
3) Can an entire party hide in shadows if everyone are thieves?

I'm planning on implementing BT3's hide in shadows in Bt Builder.

1) No.
2) Yes. However, if you try to advance 10' by hiding in shadows and are discovered before all the enemies have had their turn, it's probably curtains...
3) Yes.


Note: My answers are based on my playing the C64 version only.